Two first-time directors put a spotlight on Black living in L. A. At this point they’re Oscar nominees


Los Angeles natives Travon Free and Kris Bowers have more in common than their hometown. The first-time directors both received Oscar nominations last month for short films, which are presently streaming and boast name-brand support from the filmmaking plus Black communities.

Free’s “Two Distant Strangers” ( on Netflix ), co-directed with Martin Desmond Roe, is really a narrative short that views its subject (played by rapper Joey Badass) getting killed again and again by the exact same malevolent police officer in a fatalistic time loop. It’s a dramatic change of pace for the comedian and writer, a veteran of “The Everyday Show” and “Full Frontal With Samantha Bee. ”

Bowers co-directed, with Ben Proudfoot, “A Concerto Is a Conversation” ( on YouTube ), which sees Bowers — a composer for award-winning projects including “Green Book” and “When They Find Us” — reflect on their path to creating a concerto and the road that his grandfather took from Florida to help establish his family in Los Angeles.

Every film enjoys high-profile support — Sean “Diddy” Combs and Kevin Durant regarding “Two Distant Strangers” and Ava DuVernay for “Concerto” — and the coincidental involvement of producer Gigi Pritzker, CEO of Madison Bore holes. She appeared with the duo and their co-directors this week in a chat sponsored by the Ghetto Film School that tackled social justice in filmmaking .



“I have always believed the stories we tell assist shape who we are being a society, ” Pritzker told The Times. “When the software for ‘Two Distant Strangers’ came to me in the summer of 2020 I knew it had been a story that needed to be informed and I was happy to perform a supporting role. I [also] could not be happier for Kris, Ben and the entire [‘Concerto’] team. These two films embody exactly why I needed to be a filmmaker in the first place. ”

We swept up with Free and Bowers — who are looking forward to meeting in person at the Academy Honours on April 25 — for a video-conferenced chat about the recognition for their films, the particular obstacles of pandemic filmmaking plus their L. A. origins.

Oscar-nominated. You can put that in front of your own names forever. How has got the journey been so far?

Composer Kristopher Bowers attends The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences official screening of 'Green Book'

Composer Kristopher Bowers attends The particular Academy of Motion Picture Artistry and Sciences official verification of “Green Book” at the MOMA in New York City.

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Kris Bowers: For me, I mean, it’s definitely been a pretty outrageous journey — especially for our grandfather, being able to see your pet just receiving this public recognition and seeing individuals react to his story. And i believe that’s been a big win for me personally…. Every time I call your pet now he’s excited to hear what new piece of information I have for him, and he’s all ready for the Oscars.

Travon Free: It is been really, really wild. I haven’t really a new ton of time to also process it because it almost all happened while I was running a writers room for a TV show and also writing a movie intended for Apple, and it just kind of all collided on one another at the same time. My writers area started in February, my script was due in Feb, and then we were running the campaign and showing people the movie, and then the nomination happened. That day felt like one of the most amazing experiences of just trying to really understand what just happened in my experience from an individual perspective as well as from a career level. I am talking about, my co-nominee/co-director is actually good friends with Kris.

Bowers: Yeah.


Totally free: They’ve really worked together, and so it’s just a crazy experience. Really dont think I can fully be able to even comprehend it until we finished it, because it every happened so fast, as well as the train just keeps moving.

This past year must have made production exponentially more difficult. How did you navigate the challenges of 2020?

Totally free: We shot our movie in the middle of the particular pandemic in September in five days. A lot of the hurdles and barriers to getting our film made was the idea that, at the time when I had the concept and I wrote the software in July, SAG was not allowing people to shoot everything in L. A. These people weren’t giving permits regarding anything in L. A. [FilmLA] was not giving permits in D. A. So , we just kind of took up the end goal of acting as if i was going to be able to make the movie — not knowing if we might ever be able to make the film — and assuming that if we get to late August-September, and things change, we can maintain the production train rolling.

While we were filming, we were still raising the money [to cover the extra costs of production during the pandemic], while furthermore dealing with all the parameters associated with COVID. We lost two hours a day of recording because of COVID, we had 10-hour days instead of 12…. This forced us to get genuine direct and decisive as to what we wanted to do simply because there was not a lot of time to think about decisions beyond what our initial instincts were. And I think that helped us. I think this helped us not overthink things…

And so we were fortunate enough to shoot our movie in the two-week window at the end of last summer where you were allowed to film, because right after we all finished, that next week, they will ended it. We hardly made it.

Bowers: For all of us, we got really fortunate with the filming aspect…. The particular conversation was [filmed at] the end of 2019, and then the concerto premiered in February of 2020 — literally maybe three weeks or so before the lockdown. So most of the issues arrived up in post, and we had to figure out how to score this remotely, because we nevertheless had a live string outfit and some other instrumentation that individuals did remotely and recorded everybody separately and pieced it back together, and had in order to kind of figure out that procedure.

How do you each work with your own co-directors to figure out the specific firmness and the style to tell your own stories?

Bowers: The particular style really is a lot of Ben [Proudfoot] at the end of the day. His company, Breakwater , they’ve found this really signature way of filming interviews for short documentaries. Ben has a theory that he feels like we watch most of these things on small devices, and so he wants to fill that device which screen with as much information as possible.

It feels like, especially having a documentary, that seeing as much of the face as possible, you really view so much of the story as well as the way people feel since they’re navigating these memories or emotional conversations…. As soon as we talked about the discussion being between my grandpa and I in that first meeting, he was like, “I’ve usually wanted to try this two- interrotron factor. I have no idea how it’ll work or if it’ll work, but let’s just try it. ” And it had been much more seamless and comfortable than I expected it to be.

The procedure is a teleprompter system — I’m looking at a display screen [and] at the rear of the screen is the camera, and on the screen is definitely my grandfather’s face. And so when I’m looking straight into his eyes, I’m considering the camera. For me seems like we’re just using a conversation, and it actually wound up being really easy for my grandfather in that way, too.

I was a little nervous how he would feel staring at a camera for three or four hours, but being that it was this screen interaction, it made it not really too dissimilar from these kinds of conversations on Zoom and FaceTime and all of that. After which it was just about trying to find each one of these different ways to get us straight into that conversation and really place us in the middle of it. It had been a pretty fun thing to experiment with, and it’s been fascinating to see the people that really respond to being put in the middle of a conversation in that way.


For you personally, Travon, there’s “Happy Dying Day, ” “Edge associated with Tomorrow, ” movies which are in a fatalistic time cycle where people die and come back, but yours is usually connected to contemporary issues. Exactly how did you decide that this was the way you wanted to tell the story?

Free: As often as the “Groundhog Day” trope is used how to tell stories, and they’ve gotten more and more creative, this was the first time that it felt like a real metaphor for something. It’s a metaphor for what like to be Black in the us. It is the loop.

I mean, if you place all those movies next to each other and you look at the actual objective the time loop is providing… we’re literally living that have. We go through the cycle associated with hearing about Daunte Wright, being angry about Daunte Wright, being sad regarding Daunte Wright and his family members, and then the hopelessness you are feeling that this will never stop happening to us. And then getting yourself back to a place of being positive and resilient enough in order to fight, to continue to find an answer to a problem that seems unsolvable.

So the believed occurred to me last summer season, when we were marching and protesting, that this cycle of internalizing the emotions close to these deaths feels like the worst version of “Groundhog Day. ” Even in the exact movie itself, the original film, the device only serves to stop to help a white man understand “you just should never be an asshole to people, ” for lack of a much better term.

For us, it’s demonstrating to the people the cyclical nature of the trauma we experience just living in this country on the day-to-day basis. And that in my opinion took it to another degree. That to me was using it beyond what we acquired seen it used for prior to.

What did L. A. mean to each of you in terms of your own storytelling?

Bowers: This story in particular, it’s really layered. I mean, for my grandfather to know about this place and decide that it’s going to end up being possibly the safe haven designed for him to go to after from the experiences he had in California…. Like he says in the movie, he got here and he was like, “In the Southern, they tell you. In La, they show you. ” And he’s always said that for my entire life.

Los Angeles has always got this interesting thing — I grew up here, my father grew up here, my grandpa has been here since the ’40s. We have easily 50 loved ones in this city and I have such fond memories growing up and being in some of the best songs schools here in L. A. My parents did everything they could to drive all around the city for top level music schools for me, the best education with anything… it always felt to me like an opportunity in a really wonderful way where I just experienced whatever I wanted.

And I think the older I get, the more I understand [that’s] due to my parents and because of my grandparents. It’s not the land of opportunity — it only is if you can get it. And I think that’s what the movie really speaks to. Our grandfather found a way to get here, and realized that people were not going to tell him to their face that they didn’t want to help him or support him or any of that, yet once he felt a good inkling of that, he did everything he could to try to find a way around that system in order to find a way to build his own success.

Free of charge: I grew up in Compton in the late ’80s and early ’90s, and it was at a time in order to was one of the worst places to live in America in terms of its murder rate and criminal offense. I was a basketball participant all the way through college, and it was the thing that kept me through doing anything else. It was that pursuit of basketball that kept myself on the straight and slim. And I think a huge part of that was my mom, and my grandma, and my mom’s sibling.

I didn’t realize till I used to be much older that a lot of the things that were happening in the town missed me because of the uncle, because he was, at that time, a very powerful gang member in the city. And there was clearly a bubble of protection around me I didn’t know existed until I was old enough to talk about, or be talked to about this.


I had a lot of friends who died over the course of my getting through high school, and leaving the city to go to Lengthy Beach for college, plus it gave me so much character plus resilience when it came to firsthand experience with trauma and loss of life and how to persevere through that. I felt fortunate to get out alive, because you didn’t have to be a gang member or participate in any type of harmful activity to find yourself a target of a stray bullet or somebody’s gun or knife.

And it gave me this desire once I got out and into the planet to want to do more for this community, to represent something. That people, the kids who are today coming up, could point to people like me. I think in terms of filmmaking, you have me and Ava [DuVernay], and occasionally people throw in Kevin Costner. I guess Kevin Costner’s furthermore from Compton. But it isn’t really a dream people from Compton are typically chasing.

A lot of what I discovered growing up there is what made this easier for me to survive in this industry. Oftentimes we find yourself the only Black person within the room, and it takes a strong mindset to not let that will change you in a negative way. I think L. A. and Compton was a large part of what made me strong enough to be a 6-foot-7-inch Black man who is also a filmmaker plus TV show writer in an market where there ain’t very many associated with me.